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Belitseri	New plot?	Lead	[-]
Posts: 6343 (10/01/05 12:10:59) Belitseri Abgabe Governess of Volius Board Owner Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Tags : None Hey, I've been working on writing a new plot... Do you think it is better to just keep the plot that is currently posted? Or should I just start from scratch? Some of my biggest worries are technology. I don't know if I like the idea of sci-fi vs fantasy. If I write a new plot, it will be no technology, only magic. And there would have to be defined rules for magic use. Let me know what you think. ~~~***~~~ "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." George W. Bush Washington, D.C., Aug. 5, 2004>iv>
Silver Draconum	Re: New plot?	#1	[-]
Posts: 1047 (10/02/05 01:02:44) Hopeslayer Administrator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I don't care either way. If you get a new plot I'll still be your villian. If we start from scratch I'll happily use nothing but magic and normal weaponry for that time. We can just forget the whole advanced technology thing if its a problem.
Belitseri	New plot?	#2	[-]
Posts: 6343 (10/02/05 07:45:47) Belitseri Abgabe Governess of Volius Board Owner Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I don't know. I like it, but it's just so hard to manage and control. It gives you too much power for me to keep everyone that fights you happy. I probably should have tried roleplaying on another board before just jumping in and starting an rpg board... ~~~***~~~ "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." George W. Bush Washington, D.C., Aug. 5, 2004
YamotoLee	New plot?	#3	[-]
Posts: 460 (10/02/05 20:20:39) Immortal Emperor of Solaria The Black Sword Board Moderator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Yes, part of the problem (in my venerable, esteemed opinion) was the unilateralism and difficulty of getting "in" to the story. Phantos grew a little TOO major to the plot, frankly. And all the important roles were taken, so it was hard to get new people in. I think it's time we apportion power, importance, and plot relevence more evenly for this "new" Volius. And I have some wonderous ideas I'm contemplating. I definitely like the idea of a completely new landmass and rules. Low-tech, like Romanesque stuff. Possibly High-magic, a constant everyday thing that everyone has (perhaps even in even amounts? I developed a system once that worked that way) and uses regularly. Sound like a start? Should I write up something more extensive? Anyone given any thought to deities, too? C'mon, except for the paladins, there's never been discernable religion in Volius. They could even impact the plot.
Silver Draconum	Re: New plot?	#4	[-]
Posts: 1047 (10/03/05 02:56:13) Hopeslayer Administrator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I think my character only become so important to the plot is because he was really the only villain with enough resources to be a threat to everyone else. But I do like the idea of apportioning power, importance, and plot relevence to characters. But I think it would be better to make magic rarer than it was, as it seemed like everyone had some sort of magic last time. (I'm more guilty of this than anyone what with raising undead, calling down lightning, and basically being almost godlike with the more Seals I had). What I was thinking is that people with magic should be rare and special, and magic items would be way more important than they used to be. I can give you more details on a magic system and what not if you'd like As for deities, that would be a good idea. It adds more depth to the whole thing, but make it so that the various deities don't reflect real world views too much or else people might get offended. You might try having a certain type of magic for each deity, along with a few others that arn't so magically inclined directly. Say a god of Fire, a Goddes of Ice, a God of War, just to give a very basic idea. The whole diety thing adds another layor of motivation and what not to characters.
Belitseri	New plot?	#5	[-]
Posts: 6343 (10/03/05 22:45:40) Belitseri Abgabe Governess of Volius Board Owner Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Maybe base the religion thing on the Greek gods and goddesses? Should the gods be roleplayed as well, or that would probably lead to the whole too-much-power-issue again. Man, I gotta get to bed.... I'll finish replying to everything in the morning, when I can think. ~~~***~~~ "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." George W. Bush Washington, D.C., Aug. 5, 2004
StarfleetOfficer	New plot?	#6	[-]
Posts: 1822 (10/04/05 11:24:37) General of the Cross General Gulio Administrator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I like the god Idea. As long as Zhan can be part of some uber-radical group. Greek gods were dumb. "But I can do a better job of protecting America's security because the test that I was talking about was a test of legitimacy, not just in the globe, but elsewhere."-Sen.Kerry Elsewhere than our entire globe? Like Mars? The Moon? Outside our solar system?
YamotoLee	New plot?	#7	[-]
Posts: 460 (10/04/05 11:41:59) Immortal Emperor of Solaria The Black Sword Board Moderator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Well, not STRICTLY on the Greeks dummy. And prolly not even them, just kind of in general the types of old-world gods that most civs had. Egypt, Mesopotamia, Rome, Greece, etc. A conglomeration of common traits.
Silver Draconum	Re: New plot?	#8	[-]
Posts: 1047 (10/04/05 11:47:31) Hopeslayer Administrator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Yeah, just a whole group of gods and goddesses based off of different aspects. We don't really need real world counter parts, and none of the gods need to be roleplayed as an actual character. I mean what says god-mode more than roleplaying an actual god in the story line? Yeah, the gods and goddesses should only be NPCs at the most. We don't want them to be the main focal point of the story.
YamotoLee	New plot?	#9	[-]
Posts: 460 (10/04/05 12:05:30) Immortal Emperor of Solaria The Black Sword Board Moderator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	DEFINITELY NPC only. And we can make up some Divine rules for them so they can't play Deus Ex Machina. But for Example, like: Love, War, Death, Water, Fire, Forests (or Plants, or something like that), Building (or smithing? would we have patrons for professions?), the Sun, the Moon(s), a King, the Skies, other abstracts (dreams, art, magic, valor, etc.). But Demigods should probably be avoided, they're big enough to be abused but small enough to be excused and rationalized.
Silver Draconum	Re: New plot?	#10	[-]
Posts: 1047 (10/04/05 14:07:49) Hopeslayer Administrator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Yeah, I had already thought up a religion for Phantos and his Lunarians but never really got to go into it. I was gonna have twins for his deities, Lunis and Luna. One male and one female. The god and goddess of the kitsunes and also the moons. Sorry, but that just seemed like the perfect time to bring that up.
StarfleetOfficer	New plot?	#11	[-]
Posts: 1822 (10/05/05 11:16:39) General of the Cross General Gulio Administrator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	In a couple of RPs I was in, Zhan was a follower of the God of Justice. "But I can do a better job of protecting America's security because the test that I was talking about was a test of legitimacy, not just in the globe, but elsewhere."-Sen.Kerry Elsewhere than our entire globe? Like Mars? The Moon? Outside our solar system?
Belitseri	New plot?	#12	[-]
Posts: 6343 (10/05/05 11:47:00) Belitseri Abgabe Governess of Volius Board Owner Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Mhm. Zhan's religion was quite noticable. Good point about the gods not being roleplayed, lol. I am just powerhungry. innocent smile But that would give the culture a little more realism. Sounds good. Are we only going to have the one religion? Should we just let people make up their own gods and throw them in as we go along? Or should I have a religion with a full description, guidelines and the such? ~~~***~~~ "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." George W. Bush Washington, D.C., Aug. 5, 2004
Silver Draconum	Re: New plot?	#13	[-]
Posts: 1047 (10/05/05 13:17:27) Hopeslayer Administrator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I guess we could all kinda pitch in for making up the gods and such. But are we going to go with each race has its own god, or do we do the other way and have a god for each thing like "God of war, god of death, god of valor, god of the earth, god of sky..." Personally I think it would be easier to just have a god or goddess for each race and just kinda limit the different races a bit. Or maybe some races' gods are also gods of other aspects. Like the god of war is also the god of the orcs or something for example.
Belitseri	New plot?	#14	[-]
Posts: 6343 (10/05/05 22:10:15) Belitseri Abgabe Governess of Volius Board Owner Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Hrm... Yeah, we could have the elemental gods (don't know if that's a better way to describe your 'god of war, god of earth' list. :P ). And then maybe each race has one god or goddess represent them that they worship? ~~~***~~~ "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." George W. Bush Washington, D.C., Aug. 5, 2004
StarfleetOfficer	New plot?	#15	[-]
Posts: 1822 (10/06/05 10:15:54) General of the Cross General Gulio Administrator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I think God's should be more occupation oriented. I don't mean the God of Fishing, but like soilders would follow the God of War or simliar.....etc.... "But I can do a better job of protecting America's security because the test that I was talking about was a test of legitimacy, not just in the globe, but elsewhere."-Sen.Kerry Elsewhere than our entire globe? Like Mars? The Moon? Outside our solar system?
Belitseri	New plot?	#16	[-]
Posts: 6343 (10/06/05 11:16:29) Belitseri Abgabe Governess of Volius Board Owner Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	shrug I'll let you guys duke it out. ~~~***~~~ "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." George W. Bush Washington, D.C., Aug. 5, 2004
Silver Draconum	Re: New plot?	#17	[-]
Posts: 1047 (10/06/05 12:28:24) Hopeslayer Administrator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Well if e occupation related that might take a while to think them all up. While we want more details and stuff we don't want to get TOO detailed ya know what I mean? I think we might try going with 7 elemental gods, like one for each type of magic (Fire, Water, Storms, Earth, Body, Mind, Spirit) I think each race has its own dieites or set of them might make things a little easier and a bit better overall though. Basically I still want to use Lunis and Luna, the patron dieities of the kitsunes, god and goddess of the moons, and life and death. I figured this would simplify things by making them somewhat specific (kitsunes, moons.) But also general enough that other races would worship thme some too (Death and life are awfully general). Thus while you might have some races that worship the same gods they might do so in VERY differenct ways as they might view things differently. Such as a kitsune like Phantos would see fighting a war to kill all humans and raising them as undead soldiers as a way to glorify his god and goddes another of his race may think it better to preserve life and undead as a perversion to the natural order of how things should be. Phantos would obviously be more focused towards Lunis god of death while the other is more towards Luna, but both worship the same two dieties and see life and death as a part of things. Just in vastly different ways. I may be rambling now so I'm gonna go ahead and post what I have.
Belitseri	New plot?	#18	[-]
Posts: 6343 (10/06/05 14:59:10) Belitseri Abgabe Governess of Volius Board Owner Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Lol. That was fine. It's interesting to read people's thoughts as they're thinking about it. :P Are you going to make up a new character? Or just have a Phantos with no technology? ~~~***~~~ "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." George W. Bush Washington, D.C., Aug. 5, 2004
StarfleetOfficer	New plot?	#19	[-]
Posts: 1822 (10/06/05 17:04:24) General of the Cross General Gulio Administrator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	But Humans are so eclectic...they would need more then one god...It's just human nature! "But I can do a better job of protecting America's security because the test that I was talking about was a test of legitimacy, not just in the globe, but elsewhere."-Sen.Kerry Elsewhere than our entire globe? Like Mars? The Moon? Outside our solar system?
Silver Draconum	Re: New plot?	#20	[-]
Posts: 1047 (10/06/05 23:21:38) Hopeslayer Administrator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Well humans could worship any god since humans are neither good or evil, yet both. They'd just have a different outlook on the same gods. Like a human might worship the goddess of life Luna but might not see her as one of the patrons of the kitsune race. And yeah, I was just gonna have Phantos but with no technology. I mean let's face it, he had super strength, powerful magic, and technology so advanced it was just plain wrong. So yeah, I can live with just the really good fighting and powerful magic.

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